Notes & Comments
Olaf Engel
The Ark ('68) as non-BTB-release has Metal Man has Hornet's Wings, The Story of Electricity, and Agency Man(without Beefheart) on it. It's alright that they where omitted on the BTB-release, because they have nothing to do with the MOI-show.
unknown
This four-track soundboard master was STOLEN from Zappa. Very energetic. Actual release date has been suggested as around 1984.
This must have been released after Uncle Meat came out, because the cover shows various creepy pictures of teeth sourrounded by monster-comic style monster heads. "Mothers" is written in dripping monster-comic style letters, too. Back cover imitates (?) a Cal Schenkel montage with some Mothers and some other stuff.
The Fine Print
Daniel Norris
Could someone decipher "The Fine Print" on the back of the booklet of
The Ark? And let me know, please?
Brian Lagerman
THE FINE PRINT
Corporate swill:
Publishing controlled by Third Story Music, BMI, (except "Valarie", Fast Music, BMI) All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction is a violation of applicable laws. But you already knew that.
Package design and execution by Daygojap Studios.
Recording facilities: the ol' 4-track
The Stolen Masters
Patrick Neve
BTW, does anybody know the circumstances under which the masters for this were stolen? (I won't tell anybody!)
Bill Lantz
The Ark taped many shows of bands that played there. I don't think that Frank had to even set up recording equipment to have it recorded. The way I heard it was that a 3 mike setup was used to record the show and before Frank could go retrieve the tapes for his own use, they were mysteriously missing. I remember an interview somewhere that FZ talked a little about it and how fried he was that the missing tapes turned up on a bootleg.
User855161
Frank was interviewed in 1984 for a French magazine (as reprinted in Mother People) where he said that the Ark boot was taken from rough mixes he had made of the original tapes—so the original tapes themselves were NOT stolen!! The mixes were spirited away out of TTG studios in Hollywood; when/by whom I don't know.
BTW, has anyone else noticed that the BTB1 version of the Ark LP is longer than the original boot? It contains longer raps, though less solo on My Guitar. I wonder how that could be? :-)
Scott Parker.
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
Jesus, he's right! I never realized this. So either there was a differently edited version of The Ark original bootleg out there somewhere, or FZ was lying about ALL the BTB albums being mastered directly from genuine, storebought bootlegs, or somebody lied to FZ . . .
The Venue
Scott Parker
You're both right on this one . . . the venue for the Ark LP IS the Boston Tea Party! In June 1969 they changed thier name to the Ark . . . which brings up this good point: The LP should read July 1969 and NOT 1968 . . . this performance predated the end of the original MOI as a performing unit by two months.
PS. I DEFY anybody to prove me wrong!!!
Daniel Norris
Maybe somebody could help me with this. I have a poster advertising Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention. The pitcure is a black and white of the Mona Lisa, only with Frank's nose and facial hair painted in. (very funny!) The poster says:
Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention
Boston Tea Party Sunday Oct. 18
15 Lansdowne 536-0915
2 shows 7 & 10 $3.50
Lights: the Forest
Fred Banta
I've been told this is the ad for for The Ark.
Charles Ulrich
I think it must have been 1970, with Flo & Eddie, George Duke, Ian Underwood, Jeff Simmons, and Aynsley Dunbar.
1. 1970 was the only year between 1959 and 1981 in which October 18 fell on a Sunday.
2. In an affz thread on The Ark in February 1997, Scott Parker reported that, contrary to date on the cover, The Ark was recorded in 1969. This is evidenced by the fact that Buzz Gardner is playing trumpet. In the same thread, David Walley reported that he saw the Mothers at the Boston Tea Party the following year (after the Ark), i.e. 1970. (He said the following summer, but perhaps he was mistaken, or perhaps they played there twice that year.)
3. The Mothers are known to have played in Europe in October of 1967 and 1968. They were officially disbanded in October of 1969. They played the Boston Music Hall in October 1971, September 1972, October 1975, and October 1976. They played the Boston Orpheum in October (and November) 1974.
4. Neither Miles's A Visual Documentary nor Jon Naurin's FZShows Version 2.0 lists any Mothers gigs for October 1970, so they could have been anywhere, including the Boston Tea Party.
By the way, Scott Parker said:
You're both right on this one . . . the venue for the Ark LP IS the Boston Tea Party!
In June 1969 they changed thier name to the Ark . . . which brings up this good point:
The LP should read July 1969 and NOT 1968 . . . this performance predated the end of the original MOI as a performing unit by two months.
If Scott is correct about the name change, and if I'm right about the 1970 date for the Mona Lisa poster, then they must have changed the name of the club back to the Boston Tea Party sometime between July 1969 and October 1970.
The Date
Charles Ulrich
I have more support for the 1969 date.
1. FZ reads a request for "the following songs from your records", including "Dog Breath". Uncle Meat was released in 1969, as was the single of "Dog Breath". So the song couldn't have been referred to as "from your records" in 1968.
2. FZ says that "My Guitar"/"Valarie" is going to be released this week. The FAQ lists no such single, but several singles with "My Guitar" were released, all in 1969 or 1970. YCDTOSA Volume 5 may be more precise about the date of recording of "My Guitar", but I don't have my copy here. Anyway, it probably doesn't date from 1968.
Michael Zink
A HA!!! MY SUSPICIONS WERE RIGHT!!! I always heard a trumpet on some of "The Ark" and suspected that Buzz played, but I never heard a second guitar, since Lowell George was in the group during the same period as Buzz. AND, sleevenotes on "YCDTOSA 5" mention an Ark gig as July 1969! I was always suspicious about this, and now I totally believe it was recorded in 1969—except for one thing. Will someone explain why I don't hear Lowell George?
David F Lynch
That's an easy one. Lowell was only a member for the SPRING tour, and the MOI played a couple gigs without him later in the year. Presumably including this one.
Charles Ulrich, March 8, 2003
Donna Halper of Emerson College has discovered the correct date of the MOI gig at The Ark in Boston.
It was Tuesday, July 8, 1969.
Mystery solved.
Some Ballet Music
Patrick Neve
I'm sure this is old news for a lot of you, but upon closer listening to Some Ballet Music, the theme from Greggory Peccary jumped out at me. I think that's pretty cool, for being 1969 or whenever. Found myself singing along, "If my tie is wide enough, everyone will know . . . "
John Henley
The intro and certain other parts were played by the Grand Wazoo Orchestra and can be heard on the circulating concert tapes.
Status Back Baby
Olaf Engel
Is it the only recording where Zappa himself sings the lyrics to Status Back Baby?
