The Roxy Performances

December 8-10, 1973
Roxy, Los Angeles, CA
"4 hours uncut"

Parts appear in:
Some music appears on:
The Mothers Of Invention:

FZ—guitar, vocals
Napoleon Murphy Brock—tenor sax, vocals
George Duke—keyboards, vocals
Bruce Fowler—trombone
Ruth Underwood—percussion
Tom Fowler—bass
Ralph Humphrey—drums
Chester Thompson—drums
+
Jeff Simmons—guest vocals

Dummy Up

The Roxy

Dates And Shows

Dennis Hunt, "Zappa And Mothers Perform At Roxy," Los Angeles Times, December 11, 1973

True to form, the group performed sensationally at the Roxy on Sunday night.

The show, which also included comical country and western singer John Kaye, was only scheduled for Sunday [December, 9] and Monday [December, 10]. A club engagement is unusual for Zappa and the Mothers, who primarily play concerts.

FZ, Roxy & Elsewhere (1974), liner notes

Most of the material in this double set was recorded Dec. 10, 11 & 12, 1973, at The Roxy, Hollywood.

FZ, You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Sampler (1988), liner notes

date: December 12, 1973 location: THE ROXY, HOLLYWOOD, CA

FZ, You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 1 (1988), liner notes

date: December 12, 1973 location: THE ROXY, HOLLYWOOD, CA

FZ, You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 3 (1988), liner notes

date: DECEMBER 12, 1973 location: THE ROXY, HOLLYWOOD, CA

FZ, You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4 (1991), liner notes

date(s): November, 1973 [...] location(s): THE ROXY [...], HOLLYWOOD

The Roxy Trailer, December, 2000

Frank Zappa
and these Mothers
played at The Roxy
on Sunset Blvd.
8, 9 & 10 December, 1973

[...]

20 ORIGINAL SONGS

3 COMPLETE SHOWS

4 HOURS UNCUT

Roxy By Proxy (2014), liner notes

December 9 & 10, 1973

Roxy—The Movie (2015), liner notes

8, 9, 10 December 1973—Frank Zappa & The Mothers, Live at the Roxy, Hollywood

John Albarian, Roxy—The Movie (2015), liner notes

Frank's four separate performances at The Roxy [...]. Each show ran for about 80 minutes. [...] Not to mention the additional filming done backstage and at Bolic Studios the day after the final show. [...] FZ was smart enough to shoot four different performances of essentially the same set over two days.

Charles Ulrich, "Frank Zappa Gig List: 1973," The Planet Of My Dreams, 2012

12/09-10 from ad, listing, and reviews. session sheet says 12/10. R+E has 12/10-12. Roxy trailer has 12/08-10. [Kevin Boyton] has 12/08-12. held over to 12/11? rehearsal in Roxy on 12/08?

Vaultmeister, Zappateers, November 9, 2015

Exactly, one soundcheck/invite-only type show on the 8th. Then two shows on each night after.

Billboard, December 22, 1973

Frank Zappa filmed a rehearsal of his well-received Roxy engagement with the invited audience dressed in black . . .

 

The Sources And Edits

Special thanks to Patrick Buzby.

Roxy, LA, December 9 or 10, 1973 WLIR Un-concert, c. 1973-1974 BTB I: Piquantique Roxy & Elsewhere (1974) YCDTOSA (1988-1991) Various Roxy By Proxy (2014) Roxy—The Movie (2015) Roxy—The Soundtrack (2015)
              1. "Something Terrible Has Happened"/Cosmik Debris 1. Something Terrible Has Happened
                0:00-0:12
              0:00:00-0:00:38 0:12-0:50
                0:50-1:00
              0:00:38-0:00:57 1:00-1:19
1. Cosmik Debris               2. Cosmik Debris
00:00-00:44                
              0:00:57-0:01:11 0:00-0:13
00:44-10:07             0:01:11-0:10:45 0:13-9:47
10:07-10:13                
10:13-10:19             0:10:45-0:10:52 9:47-9:54
2. Well, Folks               3. Penguin In Bondage
0:00-0:03                
0:03-0:27             0:10:52-0:11:16 0:00-0:23
0:27-3:09                
3. Pygmy Twylyte     2. Pygmy Twylyte       More Tracks. 1. Pygmy Twylyte  
0:00-0:04                
0:04-0:19     0:00-0:14          
0:19-9:07                
      0:14-2:12          
              00:00-08:35  
      3. Dummy Up   The True Story Of 200 Motels      
      0:00-1:19          
          38:31-39:14      
      1:19-2:22   39:14-40:17      
          40:17-41:14      
      2:22-2:43   41:14-41:35      
      2:43-6:03          
4. Idiot Bastard Son             More Tracks. 2. The Idiot Bastard Son  
0:00-2:15                
              08:35-10:58  
      4. Village Of The Sun     7. Village Of The Sun    
      0:00-4:17          
            0:00-3:21    
      5. Echidna's Arf (Of You)     8. Echidna's Arf (Of You) 8. Echidna's Arf (Of You) 7. Echidna's Arf (Of You)
            0:00-3:07    
      0:00-3:00       0:40:26-0:43:28 0:00-3:01
      3:00-3:53          
            3:07-4:00 0:43:28-0:44:21 3:01-3:54
      6. Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?     9. Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? 9. Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? 8. Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
      0:00-9:40          
            0:00-6:59 0:44:21-0:51:23 0:00-7:02
            10. Cheepnis—Percussion 10. Cheepnis—Percussion 9. Cheepnis—Percussion
            0:00-3:53 0:51:33-0:55:17 0:00-3:53
              0:55:17-0:55:32 3:53-4:08
5. Cheepnis     7. Cheepnis     11. Cheepnis 11. Cheepnis 10. Cheepnis
0:00-3:31                
            0:00-3:35    
      0:00-3:58       0:55:32-0:59:10 0:00-3:38
              0:59:10-0:59:39 3:38-4:07
      3:58-5:09 (*)          
      5:09-6:31       0:59:39-1:01:02 4:07-5:30
              1:01:02-1:01:10 5:30-5:38
              1:01:10-1:01:16  
            1. "Carved In The Rock" 7. Inca Roads  
            0:00-2:30    
            2:30-3:30 0:32:12-0:33:12  
            2. Inca Roads    
            0:00-7:12 0:33:12-0:40:26  
            7:12-7:15    
3:31-4:35           7:15-8:21    
6. Penguin In Bondage 7. Penguin In Bondage   1. Penguin In Bondage     3. Penguin In Bondage 2. Penguin In Bondage 3. Penguin In Bondage
0:00-5:47           0:00-5:52    
      0:00-0:12          
      0:12-1:23       0:11:16-0:12:29 0:23-1:36
              0:12:29-0:12:34 1:36-1:41
      1:23-1:25       0:12:34-0:12:36 1:41-1:43
              0:12:36-0:12:47 1:43-1:54
      [1:25-2:19 (1974)]          
  0:00-0:13           0:12:47-0:13:01 1:54-2:09
  0:13-0:51              
              0:13:01-0:13:39 2:09-2:46
  0:51-0:54           0:13:39-0:13:42 2:46-2:49
  0:54-1:23   2:19-2:48       0:13:42-0:14:11 2:49-3:18
      [2:48-6:48 (1974)]          
  1:23-2:39           0:14:11-0:15:27 3:18-4:35
              0:15:27-0:16:50 4:35-5:57
  2:39-3:27           0:16:50-0:17:38 5:57-6:45
  3:27-5:09              
              0:17:38-0:19:15 6:45-8:22
7. T'Mershi Duween 8. T'Mershi Duween 4. T'Mershi Duween       4. T'Mershi Duween 3. T'Mershi Duween 4. T'Mershi Duween
  0:00-1:52 0:00-1:54            
0:00-1:53           0:00-1:55 0:19:15-0:21:12 0:00-1:56
8. Dog Meat 9. Dog Breath         5. Dog Breath Variations/Uncle Meat 4. Dog/Meat 5. Dog/Meat
  0:00-1:46              
0:00-1:41           0:00-1:44 0:21:12-0:22:57 0:00-1:44
  9. Uncle Meat              
            1:44-4:01 (*)    
1:41-3:55 0:00-2:16           0:22:57-0:25:14 1:44-4:01
  2:16-2:32              
3:55-4:07           4:01-4:13 0:25:14-0:25:26 4:01-4:14
9. RDNZL           6. RDNZL 5. RDNZL 6. RDNZL
0:00-3:53           0:00-4:02 0:25:26-0:29:30 0:00-4:03
3:53-4:56           4:02-5:06    
            5:06-5:27    
              0:29:30-0:30:18 4:03-4:51
              0:30:18-0:30:24  
              6. Audience Participation—RDNZL  
              0:30:24-0:32:12  
10. Montana       Vol. 4. CD 1. 5. Montana Montana—zappa.com      
0:00-2:52                
          00:00-04:10      
        0:05-1:42 04:10-05:48      
2:52-3:43       1:42-2:34        
3:43-4:03                
4:03-5:06       2:34-3:37        
5:06-7:44                
          05:48-08:06      
        3:37-4:18 08:06-08:47      
          08:47-10:49      
        Vol. 4. CD 1. 10. Let's Move To Cleveland Dupree's Paradise—zappa.com 12. Dupree's Paradise    
          10:49-32:17      
7:44-7:49       0:00-0:05   00:00-00:05    
11. Dupree's Paradise                
0:00-3:42           00:05-03:51    
            03:51-15:12    
      10. Be-Bop Tango       14. Be-Bop Tango 11. Be-Bop Tango
      00:00-01:03          
              1:14:18-1:15:18 00:00-01:00
      01:03-01:22       1:15:18-1:15:38 01:00-01:19
              1:15:38-1:15:42 01:19-01:23
      01:22-04:10       1:15:42-1:18:31 01:23-04:12
              1:18:31-1:18:42 04:12-04;24
      04:10-04:19       1:18:42-1:18:51 04:24-04:32
      04:19-07:38          
      07:38-08:19       1:18:51-1:19:32 04:32-05:13
              1:19:32-1:19:35 05:13-05:17
      08:19-08:38       1:19:35-1:19:55 05:17-05:36
              1:19:55-1:19:57 05:36-05:39
      08:38-08:42       1:19:57-1:20:02 05:39-05:43
              1:20:02-1:20:13 05:43-05:55
      08:42-08:58       1:20:13-1:20:29 05:55-06:11
              1:20:29-1:20:35 06:11-06:16
      08:58-09:30       1:20:35-1:21:07 06:16-06:48
              1:21:07-1:21:12 06:48-06:53
      09:30-09:38       1:21:12-1:21:21 06:53-07:03
              1:21:21-1:21:31 07:03-07:12
      09:38-10:03       1:21:31-1:21:56 07:12-07:37
              1:21:56-1:21:56 07:37-07:38
      10:03-10:25       1:21:56-1:22:18 07:38-08:00
              1:22:18-1:22:36 08:00-08:18
      10:25-10:44       1:22:36-1:22:56 08:18-08:37
              1:22:56-1:23:10 08:37-08:51
      10:44-10:59       1:23:10-1:23:25 08:51-09:07
              1:23:25-1:23:37 09:07-09:19
      10:59-11:38       1:23:37-1:24:17 09:19-09:58
      11:38-11:42          
      11:42-12:03       1:24:17-1:24:37 09:58-10:18
              1:24:37-1:24:41 10:18-10:23
      12:03-14:05       1:24:41-1:26:46 10:23-12:28
              1:26:46-1:26:50 12:28-12:32
      14:05-14:10       1:26:50-1:26:55 12:32-12:36
              1:26:55-1:26:56 12:36-12:37
      14:10-14:19       1:26:56-1:27:06 12:37-12:47
              1:27:06-1:27:18 12:47-13:00
      14:19-14:28       1:27:18-1:27:27 13:00-13:08
              1:27:27-1:28:17 13:08-13:58
      14:28-15:09       1:28:17-1:28:58 13:58-14:39
              1:28:58-1:29:23 14:39-15:04
      15:09-15:42       1:29:23-1:29:56 15:04-15:38
              1:29:56-1:30:09 15:38-15:50
      15:42-16:17       1:30:09-1:30:45 15:50-16:26
              1:30:45-1:31:10 16:26-16:51
      16:17-16:39       1:31:10-1:31:32 16:51-17:13
              1:31:32-1:31:50 17:13-17:32
        Vol. 1. CD 1. 12. I'm The Slime     12. I'm The Slime  
              1:01:16-1:02:07  
        0:00-3:13     1:02:07-1:05:20  
        Vol. 1. CD 1. 13. Big Swifty     13. Big Swifty 10. Cheepnis
              1:05:20-1:05:23  
        0:02-0:04     1:05:23-1:05:25  
        0:04-0:06 / 0:00-0:02     1:05:25-1:05:27  
        0:06-8:47     1:05:27-1:14:09  
              1:14:09-1:14:15  
              1:14:15-1:14:18 5:38-5:40
        Vol. 3. CD 2. 1. Dickie's Such An Asshole YCDTOSA Sampler (1988) Side 4. 4. Dickie's Such An Asshole   More Tracks. 3. Dickie's Such An Asshole  
        00:00-01:19        
              10:58-11:28  
        01:19-01:24     11:28-11:33  
              11:33-11:36  
        01:24-01:54     11:36-12:07  
              12:07-12:19  
        01:54-02:03        
        02:03-02:12     12:19-12:29  
        02:12-06:03 0:00-3:51   12:29-16:21  
              16:21-17:02  
        06:03-07:35 3:51-5:23   17:02-18:34  
              18:34-18:36  
        07:35-07:44 5:23-5:32   18:36-18:45  
          5:32-5:52      
        07:44-07:49     18:45-18:50  
              18:50-19:17  
        07:49-08:43 5:52-6:46   19:17-20:11  
        08:43-08:55     20:11-20:24  
              20:24-20:27  
        08:55-09:01     20:27-20:33  
              20:33-20:48  
          WTFIFZ (Kickstarter, April 9, 2016) 13. King Kong/Chunga's Revenge/Mr. Green Genes    
          0:18:12-0:18:45      
          0:18:12-0:19:15 0:00-0:30    
          0:19:15-0:19:26      
          0:19:26-0:28:12 0:30-9:13    
          0:28:12-0:28:19      

(*) Hard to tell where the edit points are, but it sounds like a different performance.


Notes & Comments

On 20 Apr 1997, Matt M wrote:

I heard a rumor that the concert was shot in 16mm and its lying in the Vault with God know what other tasty morsels. Anyone seen this or heard similar 16mm info?

Patrick Neve

I've heard that too, and FZ provides corraborating evidence in Echidna's Arf when he says, "Ladies & gentlemen, watch Ruth. All through this film,.. etc."

Biffyshrew

Even more compelling corroborating evidence is that part of the Roxy performance of "Dummy Up" can be seen in The True Story Of 200 Motels. *MAN*, I want them to release the whole show!!!

Jon Naurin

From the lecture at the Gifford Auditorium, Syracuse, 04/23/75:

"Can you tell us if anything is going on with your 'Live at the Roxy' movie?"

"Well, I wish there was...The status of that film is this: I spent about $30.000-40.000 trying to get the thing on film, and I got it on film, and there's some things that happened down there that were absolutely fabulous. However, they're too weird to show on television, and I don't think there's really a market in the theaters for a straight concert film like that...So right now, it's sitting in my shelf, being an expensive piece of home movie. Maybe one day, when TV loosens up a little bit, we'll be able to show the lovely Brenda, doing...(FZ and George Duke laugh)...that was a real nice piece of film, that Brenda...(more laughter)."

"'Yes, I Am A Rich Man'—The Sharaton Hotel Press Conference, Oslo," Society Pages, August, 1988

Q: Will we be seeing anything of the tape that was made at the Roxy show in 1973?

FZ: There is a piece of that included in the "True Story of 200 Motels." But all the Roxy has been transferred to video tape and one day I'll put together a Roxy concert.

User855161

From SOCIETY PAGES (or: Den Simms where are you?), issue #7, page 17, interview with FZ by Simms & Rob Samler 1/12/91:

DEN SIMMS: Will we ever get to see some of the film that was made at the Roxy in '73?

FZ: Not unless I get to be very, very, very, very rich, and have an awful lot of spare time. All the film has been transferred to video, but none of the audio has been synchronized to it. Before you can edit it, it all has to be synchronized, and that's a pretty time-consuming and expensive process. Video editing costs a lot of money, and I don't have any of the equipment here at the house, so I always have to rely on someone else's studio, and it runs about six hundred to seven hundred dollars an hour.

Robbert Heederik

The only footage of the Roxy video that I have seen is on The True Story of 200 Motels in which we see Dummy Up. Supposedly much of the Roxy & Elsewhere concert that originated from the Roxy, was filmed. You can hear a comment on Stage 3 about "while we reload the cameras" before they do Dickie's Such an Asshole. And on parts of Roxy, you hear Frank talk about this "movie". I believe the plan was to air the film/video on US tv (or maybe European TV) like they did with the 1974 performance for KETC (sic) in LA, or the mTV concert from 1981. But as far as I can tell though, it was never aired. I have dug around for a copy of a videotape of this performance and the only feedback I have been given from a videotape collector/bootlegger was that "yes the tape does exist, it is EXTREMELY rare and very expensive and the copy you might obtain would be of horrid quality". I take it that this means that the guy at one time did see a bad copy and it would be very difficult for him to track down another.

Patrick Neve

As of this writing (Jan. 99) the current rumor is that Dweezil is seeing to the transfer and production of this film. GODSPEED, DWEEZ!

pbuzby, Zappateers, August 19, 2015

While we're on the subject, here is a quick attempt at a list of the known Roxy repertoire. Most songs are available in more than one version from the Roxy run. For the ones where the same take is available in more than one place I have listed the two releases with a slash (for instance, the same version of RDNZL is on the audience tape and Roxy By Proxy so I listed it "RBP/audience," but Echidna's Arf is a different version on Proxy than R&E so it is listed "R&E, RBP"). Any additions or corrections welcome.

Penguin In Bondage—R&E, RBP/audience, UnConcert
Pygmy Twylyte—R&E/video ("Dummy Up"), audience
Idiot Bastard Son—audience
Cheepnis—R&E, RBP, audience
Village Of The Sun—R&E, RBP
Echidna's Arf—R&E, RBP
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing—R&E, RBP
BeBop Tango—R&E
Montana—video, audience (YCDTOSA 4 is edit of both)
Dupree's Paradise—video, RBP/audience
Inca Roads—RBP
T'Mershi Duween—RBP/audience, UnConcert
Dog Breath—RBP/audience, UnConcert
Uncle Meat—RBP/audience, UConcert
RDNZL—RBP/audience
Cheepnis (percussion)—RBP
Cosmik Debris—audience
Dickie's Such An Asshole—YCDTOSA (partly different version on YCDTOSA sampler)
I'm The Slime—YCDTOSA
Big Swifty—YCDTOSA
King Kong/Chunga's/Son Of Mr. Green Genes—RBP

 


The Roxy Trailer

Music heard:
Patrick Neve

On December 25 2000, the following file was posted to http://www.zappa.com/:

RoxyTrailer.mov

It's a 6.7MB, 3:14 trailer for "The Roxy Performances".

According to the advice of someone on affz, and my own experience, there has been trouble running the file with anything but Apple's Quicktime. Other windows players such as "Movie Player" didn't seem to work, though your results may vary.

The content is highlights from the film, and it looks like a doozy. But don't read about it here... go and check it out for yourself while it's still up.

http://www.zappa.com/~roxytrailer/RoxyTrailer.mov

Joachim Ott

Now look at the html-source of that page. In the keywords, they didn't mention "Freak Out" and "Absolutely Free" and "Lther". Otoh, there is "Dance Me This", "Trance-Fusion", "The Rage And The Fury". Wtf?

Rob (August 31, 2001)

Anyone else notice that the Roxy trailer is no longer on zappa.com? It was at http://www.zappa.com/~roxytrailer/RoxyTrailer.mov but going there now produces a 404 error. It is also no longer linked from the left menu frame. Is this good news or bad? I'm assuming bad.

pbuzby, Zappateers, August 29, 2015

Watching the trailer again:

0:00 tuning (w/Pymgy licks) w/slowed-down FZ footage
0:25 dissonant chord (Dupree's intro) w/slowed-down FZ footage
0:30 I'm The Slime (same as YCDTOSA 1?)
0:40 "Ladies and gentlemen, we are making a movie of this"
0:43 I'm The Slime
0:48 "there's a camera there, and there's a camera there, and there's a camera there"
0:51 Inca Roads (two excerpts)
0:57 Village Of The Sun (furthering the mystery of why this is not in the tracklist)
1:03 Echidna's Arf
1:09 Big Swifty guitar solo (sounds like the guitar solo from YCDTOSA 1)
1:13 Big Swifty audio fades under backstage shot of FZ
1:19 improv (Cosmik Debris? Be Bop Tango?)
1:21 Cosmik Debris guitar solo
1:34 conducted improv (probably Dupree's intro)
1:43 Penguin In Bondage
1:48 T'Mershi Duween
1:54 RDNZL trombone solo
2:02 Dickie's Such An Asshole (text matches YCDTOSA 3 except there is an additional "I've did you no harm" and there is a segment starting at 2:30 edited out of YCDTOSA)
2:40 Idiot Bastard Son
2:43 Cheepnis (from the Roxy, not the studio version in the movie recently released—text matches the Roxy By Proxy version)
3:11 "ok, the gong always gets 'em" (from the band intro before Inca Roads on Proxy)
3:14 end

(Thanks to Zappamaniac for assistance.)

The Roxy Trailer finally appeared in all its splendor included in the Baby Snakes DVD.

Additional informant: Derek Milhouse Gilger.


Additional informants: broadway (Xwesman1X), Christof Halinger, Jeff Szarka, Jon Naurin, Matti Salminen

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