You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4

disc 1

1. Little Rubber Girl

Liner notes by FZ

date: October 31, 1979 location: THE PALLADIUM, NYC original recording medium: 24 track analog recording engineer: JOE CHICARELLI remote facility: RECORD PLANT REMOTE remix engineer: JOE CHICARELLI remix facility: VILLAGE RECORDERS

Some more raw, unbridled buffoonery for you and yours, during this festive holiday season.

Charles Ulrich (affz, June 11, 2011)

The comment about "raw, unbridled buffoonery" is from Dinah-Moe Humm '84. (And the "festive holiday season" was Thanksgiving, rather than Halloween.)

 

5. Montana

Liner notes by FZ

date(s): November, 1973 & December, 1984 location(s): THE ROXY & THE UNIVERSAL AMPHITEATER, HOLLYWOOD original recording medium(s): 16 track analog & 24 track digital recording engineers: KERRY McNAB & BOB STONE remote facility: RECORD PLANT REMOTE & UMRK MOBILE

FZ, Roxy & Elsewhere (1974) liner notes

Most of the material in this double set was recorded Dec. 10, 11 & 12, 1973, at The Roxy, Hollywood. [...] The Roxy remote recording was done by Wally Heider (16-track 30-ips), engineered by Kerry McNab

 

9. Love Of My Life

Liner notes by FZ

date: 1980 location: THE MUDD CLUB, NYC original recording medium: 2 track Nagra recording engineer: KLAUSE WIEDEMANN remote facility: near the cash register behind the bar

 

10. Let's Move To Cleveland (Solos 1984)

Tan Mitsugu, March 21, 2014

On Roxy By Proxy, Dupree's Paradise starts with The Hook. I think it's the source of The Hook in Let's Move To Cleveland (Solos 1984) from YCDTOSA4.

 

11. You Call That Music?

You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Sampler (1988) liner notes by FZ

YOU CALL THAT MUSIC? (3:07)
[...] date: September, 1969 location: COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, NYC original recording medium: 2 track analog recording engineer: DICK KUNC remote facility: UHER portable (7 1/2 ips) [...]

Another aspect of the old M.O.I. repertoire: dissonance and abstraction . . . the sort of material that used to drive rock critics into apoplexy.

Liner notes by FZ, 1991

musicians: [...] DAVE SAMUELS (guest soloist on vibes)

Charles Ulrich, May 18, 2006

I've just read an interview with Dave Samuels, in which he states that he did not play with the MOI in 1969. At that time he was in college in Chicago and just starting on vibes.

Dave Samuels, interviewed by Andy Hollinden (quoted by Charles Ulrich, August 2, 2007)

Let me see, in 1969, I was just starting vibes, and it would be unlikely that I'd be playing with them at that point. In '69, I was still in college in Chicago and playing, but not with Frank. I'd love to have a copy of the credits for that record that I never played on. That's got to be framed. That's the ideal credit.

Tracks recorded at Columbia University, NYC, NY, February 14, 1969

 

12. Pound For A Brown (Solos 1978)

Liner notes by FZ

date: October 31, 1979 location: THE PALLADIUM, NYC original recording medium: 24 track analog recording engineer: JOE CHICARELLI remote facility: RECORD PLANT REMOTE remix engineer: JOE CHICARELLI remix facility: VILLAGE RECORDERS

 

14. Take Me Out To The Ball Game

Yes, Elvis has left the building!

 

16. The Torture Never Stops

Liner notes by FZ

date: 1976 location: THE ARMADILLO, AUSTIN, TEXAS original recording medium: 16 track analog recording engineer: DAVEY MOIRE remote facility: RECORD PLANT REMOTE remix engineer: BOB STONE remix facility: UTILITY MUFFIN RESEARCH KITCHEN

Denny Walley, interviewed by Co de Kloet, August 21, 2008

We were in Texas, Armadillo World Headquarters Club, and the audience was in front of the stage, everybody was smoking marihuana and blowing the smoke at Frank, trying to get him high, and— So he had the roadies put big fans on the stage and blow it back in their face. And, uh, that's why I played such a good solo. That's all I remember.

No, actually it was very inspiring, you know? It was a live recording and the band was really hot. And, uh, I played off of the audience. Nothing's pre-planned when it comes to solos, obviously, so, we were getting a real good reaction from the audience and the band was really cooking that night.

disc 2

2. Stevie's Spanking

Liner notes by FZ

date: summer, 1982 location: ROME, ITALY

Tan Mitsugu, quoted in Arf: Notes & Comments

The Rome performance wasn't used as a whole. Compared to Video From Hell version, the vocal section and the first FZ's short guitar solo is from an unknown performance. At 2:46, when Steve's solo begins, it is edited to Rome.

flambay, April 1, 2015

First 8 bars (guitar intro) are indeed from 1982 06 18 London UK.

Entire vocal section ("His name is Stevie Vai, ..." to "... Ate the banana") is from 1982 06 19 (Late) London UK.

Bridge (2:26-2:46) is from 1982 06 18 London UK.

Everything from start Steve Vai solo onwards (most probably to end of song) is indeed from 1982 06 09 Rome IT.

 

4. Disco Boy

Braun András, November 21, 2013

The first 15 or so seconds of Disco Boy on YCDTOSA Vol. 4. disc 2 is from Munich ("Fruit! ... Hidin' ther") surely, but the middle of the song is from the Early Frankfurt (Alte Oper) show on June 11, 1982, as the "Go on, take your teeth out, girl!" insert demonstrates (maybe a reference to the Them or Us basic track venue). The rest of the song imo is from Frankfurt too, difficult to determine, because of the soundquality, but definitely not from Munich.

 

7. Florentine Pogen

Liner notes

date: February 18, 1979 location: ODEON HAMMERSMITH, LONDON, ENGLAND original recording medium: 24 track analog recording engineer: MICK GLOSSOP remote facility: ISLAND MOBILE remix engineer: BOB STONE remix facility: UTILITY MUFFIN RESEARCH KITCHEN

Sources & Edits
Helsinki, September 22, 1974 (probably) London, February 18, 1979 (late show) YCDTOSA Vol. 4 (Zappa Records, 1991)
[0:00-2:16]   0:00-2:16
  2:16-5:11 2:16-5:09

 

8. Tiny Sick Tears

date: spring tour 1969 location: 'THE FACTORY' BRONX, NY original recording medium: 2 track analog recording engineer: DICK KUNC remote facility: UHER PORTABLE (71/2 ips) in corner

 

12. Are You Upset?

Liner notes by FZ, 1991

date: spring tour 1969 location: FILLMORE EAST, NYC original recording medium: 2 track analog recording engineer: DICK KUNC remote facility: SCULLY in basement (15 ips)

Sources
New York City, NY, February 21, 1969 (late show) YCDTOSA Vol. 4 (1991)
10. Improvisations With Bunk's Tape Are You Upset?
0:52-1:49 0:00-0:57
11. Are You Upset?  
0:00-0:32 0:57-1:29
Tracks recorded at Fillmore East, NYC, NY, February 21, 1969

 

16. No, No Cherry

FZ, interviewed by Les Carter, KPPC, November 27, 1968 (Mojo, December, 1998)

LC: The one that we heard by The Turbans—"No No Cherry"—you were saying that it never played or the air and that it's owned by about 125 Mexicans in East Los Angeles.

FZ: Maybe a few more.

LC: So the censorship is finally coming down so that we can play records like this on the air.

FZ: Well, maybe on an FM station underneath a church.

LC: How did you hear about these records if you couldn't hear them on the radio?

FZ: Where I lived in Lancaster, a cruddy little town up in the desert, there's this place called Gilbert's Dime Store, and Mr. Gilbert made the awful mistake of having a rack of jukebox records that he'd sell for a dime apiece. He'd have all the latest hits, but we wouldn't buy-those. We'd hit on him to check through the batch of records when they came in. We'd explain to him that no-one would ever buy these and we could help him out by getting rid of them. So we'd go in there and pick out things like "I'm A King Bee" by Slim Harpo and lots of other stuff on Excello that you couldn't get in record stores. Excello's policy with a record store was that you had to take their gospel line if you wanted to take their R&B line, and although there may be a market among white teenagers for the R&B material, the record store owner figures that he's not going to sell too many gospel items so he won't take the line. So only a few record stores would carry them. We'd get them for a dime apiece and what we couldn't buy we'd steal.

 

17. The Man From Utopia

Well, he had a girl, but Sanavio says he got it

giancarlo (GTC), quoted by elviszappa, Zappateers, February 17, 2010

Please listen very carefully to the Pistoia show which had been one of the best for me and all the added lyrics where Zappa and the rest of the band teasing Francesco Sanavio, the italian promoter who wasn't paying the band.......the jokes on the laughs you can hear are always on him.

 

 

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